Forget the artificial intelligence (AI) hype - this comes first

In this episode, we reveal the bottleneck they solved first, why most teams get stuck in pilot mode, and how fixing this unlocks real, scalable impact with AI.

Fast-moving AI organisations don’t just experiment, they execute. But most teams are still stuck in pilot mode.
In this episode, Cassandra Bisset, Vice President Strategy at Objective, explores why nearly 50% of AI projects are failing and why the problem usually isn’t the technology.
“Government can’t ‘move fast and break things’  because trust is the product.”

This conversation unpacks:

  • why unstructured information is becoming the next frontier for AI-ready government
  • what “dull AI” really means and why it matters
  • why governance and trusted information are becoming competitive advantages
  • where organisations are actually seeing measurable AI returns

“Everyone wants AI outcomes. Almost nobody wants to fix the information underneath.”
Rather than chasing shiny tools, this episode focuses on the foundational work that enables scalable, trustworthy AI in government.
“The organisations seeing real AI returns aren’t chasing the low-hanging fruit. They’re redesigning the hard stuff.”

If you’re under pressure to deliver more with AI, while balancing governance, risk, and limited resources, this episode offers a practical perspective on what comes next.
Listen now to learn what it really takes to move from AI hype to meaningful outcomes.